Zygmunt Bauman is a sociologist and philosopher of Polish origin, best known for his creation and development of the concept of ‘liquid modernity’. Thinker, essayist and professor of universities worldwide, has built a large package of knowledge, to issues such as modernity and postmodernity, social classes, hermeneutics, social engineering, holocaust or new poverty. Author of numerous books of great academic and social impact as ‘Liquid times or ‘Modernity and the Holocaust’, among many others, is considered one of the most important sociologists of the XX century.
Other concepts such as ‘gardening society’ are present in his work and lead to reflection about how bureaucratic, political and social apparatus turns to social engineering (design and configure the power to society: who fits and who does not, to whom it is a benefit and who does not… all that relates to bureaucratic and legal aspects) to ends that make it work as a garden: the gardener (the State) can give you the look and color to the garden you want, and the dangers that this posed and the immense consequences that can have social and humanitarian level are the main thesis of ‘Modernity and the Holocaust’ and part of ‘Wasted lives’.
In this excerpt from the interview made by Fernando Schüller and Mário Mazzilly for the Brazilian project Fronteiras do Pensamento, Bauman reflects on the social condition of the world in the XX and early XXI centuries. A profound speech, full of knowledge and social and political criticism, basting through his own idea, changing the strength of the liquidity in the postmodern era and what supposed to humanity.